Welcome to the Scuff Podcast where we talk about US Soccer. Hey, we have a special guest today. His name is Evan Ratliff. First of all, he's a long time

U.S. M. T. Sicko, who cut his teeth believing Brexhet would lead us to the promised land,

and is a patron of scuff, so thank you for that, Evan.

But also, he's a serious journalist, a long time contributor to Wired magazine, writes for Bloomberg Business Week,

author of a book called The Mastermind, and most recently has a fascinating six episode podcast called Shell Game, which is both hilarious and disturbing in its

exploration of voice clones and how they might soon be entering all of our lives.

Evan, how are you?

I'm doing great.

I'm very happy to be here.

How are you?

I'm pretty well.

Rainy day in North Georgia, but we needed the rain.

Now, there's a very recent USMNT connection in the show that's actually pretty prominent in the last episode and that's kind of why we're sitting here today

But first before we get into that, and your love for Brexhet and how you're

feeling about Potch, let's set that up. So just so people can understand, I'm going to play this clip that comes up in the last episode, but people aren't going to really understand unless we set it up with some other things.

Yeah. So can you just explain what a voice clone is and how one can deploy such a thing?

I think most people will know what chat geepte is and you know how phones work and stuff.

Yeah, so basically I was kind of messing around with AI technology, as many of us do.

You know, people play with ChatGPT and that.

I got a little bored with it.

And then I discovered some people may know

that you can clone your own voice.

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