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the definition of a True Underdog and that's why he calls his podcast, The True Underdog

Podcast, raised in a trailer park, had childhood abuse, ended up creating multiple businesses,

and is doing very, very well for himself.

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Hey I'm Adam Carolla.

Hi, my name is Payne Gillette.

Not only listening, I'm the guest.

I'm a Penn and Tellereller and I am the fourth listener.

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To keep our three listeners coming back, we must be doing something right and if you're the fourth

listener we thank you for the support you can get every episode with no ads at

patreon.com slash David C. Smalley and take advantage of your fourth listener status.

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With a world divided, it's time to resurrect nuance and remember the importance of conversation.

He's an actor, he's a comedian, and he'll make you think.

This is David C. Smalley.

He's a comedian.

Finally, again tonight. for the first time in like a year in three months, I'm back on stage

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