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531 // The Voynich Enigma w/Jillian Foley

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🗓️ 22 June 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by a new friend of the show, the great Jillian Foley. Jillian is a "writer and historian of technology, studying things like cryptography, computers, and mathematics, and all the weird shit humans do with it all." She holds a PhD from the University of Chicago in their Conceptual and Historical Studies of Science. This makes her the perfect person to discuss the never-ending mystery that is The Voynich Manuscript. This is a 600 year old 240 page medieval codex written in an unknown language, complimented by beautiful and bizarre drawings of natural elements, plants of unknown origin and naked women. While answers may never come to be, this conversation examines the work in-depth. Check out all Jillian has going on: https://www.jillianefoley.com/ Follow Jillian: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/jillianefoley.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/jillianefoley/ Read the Undark article Jillian wrote about Voynich: https://undark.org/2020/02/12/decoding-bizarre-voynich-manuscript/ *This episode is brought to you by Mood, the online cannabis company that's revolutionizing how we deal with life's challenges – from sleepless nights to stress-filled days. You can get 20% off your first order at https://mood.com/ with promo code Crawlspace.* We are going to CrimeCon in Denver CO. Sept. 5th - 7th! For 10% off your standard pass, use code "crawlspace" at checkout. Go to ⁠⁠https://www.crimecon.com/CC25⁠⁠ Articles referenced: ⁠https://ca.news.yahoo.com/crime-hunter-serial-killer-terrorizing-150002533.html⁠ ⁠https://www.wwlp.com/news/crime/man-charged-with-rape-and-kidnapping-teen-in-springfield-held-without-bail/⁠ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Private Investigations For the Missing Please donate if you can: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://investigationsforthemissing.org/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://piftm.org/donate⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/PIFortheMissing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/PIFortheMissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/investigationsforthemissing/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

0:32.6

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim. We have finally brought a guest on this show that can satisfy this curiosity itch that we've had for a little while that involves this very strange piece of, I guess we're going to call it literature at this point.

0:49.3

But we get into this conversation with the very fascinating guests that we have on.

0:54.0

And I think a lot of people are going to be really engaged in what we're talking about here.

0:58.3

Because it's kind of relevant to things that are happening in today's world.

1:01.7

We bring up the NSA, for example, in connection to this like nearly 600 year old manuscript that is a subject of the conversation. But Tim, the subject of this

1:12.9

intro really should be about your mood. How are you today? I'm doing well. I'd hate to make the

1:19.1

subject about my mood because it's not as interesting as the story that we're covering here today.

1:24.8

So in this interview, we have Jillian Foley on, and

1:29.3

Jillian's got a really great background. She's got a PhD from the University of Chicago's

1:34.3

conceptual and historical studies of science program, and that really kind of makes her an expert

1:40.1

to discuss this Voynich manuscript that is full of mysteries everywhere you look, Lance.

1:48.0

And Gillian actually wrote an article about the Voynich manuscript a few years ago.

1:53.9

It's called The Strange Quest to Crack the Voynich Code.

1:58.1

And it's really about how many people over the years and centuries have been

2:03.4

sort of obsessed with trying to figure out this mystery that is the Voynich manuscript. And it's

2:10.1

really interesting because as famous and mysterious as the Voynich manuscript is, it was never

2:15.4

valued at anything significant. It was never sold for

2:18.2

anything significant. People tried to sell it, but that didn't work out. People would buy it for

2:23.1

cheap, thinking they could sell it big. But I think because the mystery is so dense and the code

2:28.4

itself has never been cracked, it just never garnered a high price tag, but it does garner a high, high level of interest.

2:36.6

There are groups that have formed to try to solve this.

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