53: US-China Ceasefire and Competition in Technology and Space. Jack Burnham (Foundation for Defense of Democracies research analyst) characterizes the Trump-Xi meeting as a necessary "truce" that allows both nations to gain stability and strengthen their pos
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 6 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchelor's research analyst Jack Burnham at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, |
| 0:10.0 | watching the People's Republic of China, and here watching their manned space program, |
| 0:16.6 | not just low Earth orbit, but lunar orbit and lunar landing and maybe lunar colony. |
| 0:23.9 | All these big plans are ahead of us. |
| 0:26.5 | Question is, how is the U.S. doing in its ambition to return to the moon and or go on to the |
| 0:33.7 | Mars Earth system? Unknown, except Jack has some recommendations. First, Jack, your measure of |
| 0:41.3 | the manned space program in China, are they ready to get to the moon now or do they need |
| 0:46.6 | components that they're still building? Thank you. I don't think they're quite ready to go to the |
| 0:52.3 | moon yet, but I would say that China, particularly |
| 0:54.9 | having collaborated with Russia on various space programs, is certainly leaning in that direction. |
| 1:01.3 | The domestic space, the private sector space program in China has increased. The CCP has put |
| 1:08.4 | more effort to develop this private industry, particularly having seen the |
| 1:12.9 | success of Elon Musk's SpaceX here in the United States, really in the wake of that success, |
| 1:19.9 | China wanted to copy it and wanted to develop its own private industry that could really |
| 1:24.0 | support a public-private partnership between the traditional state-run |
| 1:30.2 | conglomerates that developed dual-use technologies, you know, often the same companies that |
| 1:36.1 | developed China's first generation of intercontinental ballistic missiles or military rockets |
| 1:42.3 | would also develop rockets that could carry civilian |
| 1:44.6 | payloads. |
| 1:45.6 | And you also see a burgeoning private sector that has certainly connections to the state, |
| 1:51.3 | but is also more interested in building out communications, satellites, lower orbit, |
| 1:55.4 | and potentially looking at manned space travel as well. |
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