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53: US-China Ceasefire and Competition in Technology and Space. Jack Burnham (Foundation for Defense of Democracies research analyst) characterizes the Trump-Xi meeting as a necessary "truce" that allows both nations to gain stability and strengthen their pos

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 6 November 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

US-China Ceasefire and Competition in Technology and Space. Jack Burnham (Foundation for Defense of Democracies research analyst) characterizes the Trump-Xi meeting as a necessary "truce" that allows both nations to gain stability and strengthen their positions before the next escalation. Regarding rare earths, China is now employing the US "playbook," setting up a licensing structure rather than a full trade cessation. He emphasizes that building a complete rare earth supply chain outside of China, especially refining capacity, may realistically take seven to ten years. In technology, Beijing is pushing for domestic self-sufficiency in AI infrastructure, partly driven by paranoia that imported chips may contain backdoors or vulnerabilities. Burnham also details China's commitment to militarizing space, including copying US reconnaissance capabilities and practicing anti-satellite operations like "dogfighting."
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.8

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchelor. I welcome my colleague, Jack Burnham, the Foundation for Defensive Democracy, is watching China, especially the China that showed up in Seoul, South Korea in these last days,

0:24.6

for the APEC meeting, the so-called sideline meeting between the President of the United States

0:30.0

and the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party.

0:33.6

Jack, a very good evening to you.

0:35.0

Thank you very much.

0:35.9

Your measure of the meeting turns on the word

0:39.4

truce, sometimes called ceasefire. Right now, that seems adequate. But what does it mean from

0:47.4

China's point of view? Why suddenly the wolf foyer is asked to go to the back of the room. Good evening

0:52.6

to you. Thank you for having me.

0:55.0

I think this meeting here is a truce and it is a ceasefire. And I think both sides see it as a way

1:00.6

of gaining some temporary stability in order to strengthen their positions. I think it's important

1:05.4

to look at what happened before the meeting to really understand what Chairman Xi and President Trump talked about.

1:12.6

You saw President Trump going into the meeting having very strong engagements with South Korea,

1:18.9

with Japan, with ASEAN and Southeast Asia.

1:22.2

And during all of those stops, he's able to get new trade deals signed, access to rare earth minerals,

1:27.3

which was a critical aspect, signing new agreements on AI investments, shipbuilding in the United States.

1:34.3

And so really throughout, even before he met with Chairman Shee, Trump was able to consolidate a lot of his position across the region in order to bolster the United States' strength, whether that be

1:44.9

manufacturing, defense, economic. Same for the Chinese leader. Going into the meeting, he had

1:53.9

just come out of a plenum on the next five-year plan around self-strengthening domestic production, building self-sufficiency.

2:04.9

And so I think both sides came into this meeting realizing that having a truce that can

2:10.1

easily be retracted should one or both sides break their obligations to one another.

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