I'm John Batchew with my good colleague Peter Berkowitz, who gives me a picture on the world of

education today that makes it sound very much like the classroom's out of order and is objecting

to the idea that the disciplinarian of the school, often called the vice principal, would come in and lay down the

law because you, you children do not deserve freedoms that you enjoyed before because you're

insisting upon being, well, the word is irregular. All right? We'll leave it there. Peter, these universities that were sent this compact,

did they have a cogent response or just fold their arms and turn away?

Polter arms and turn away was the general response. As I said before, they did some raised

freedom of speech, academic freedom issues.

Many of them said, you know, it's hard to imagine how we could improve on the education that we're delivering.

Leave us alone.

All right.

What is to be done?

This is a standoff between the government of the United States of America.

And some of these are land schools, right?

Some of these are universities attached to states.

Some are private universities.

So there's no putting them into different buckets.

What is to be done to move them to come to understand that they've made mistakes and they can be corrected?

Well, my recommendation, as you know, is that the university should proceed by way of offering

direct incentives. What I mean by this is that first, the compact that they proposed was

deficient in one big respect.

Even if the university is complied with all aspects of it,

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