53: Canada's Troubled Relations with China and the US. Charles Burton (author of The Beaver and the Dragon) analyzes Canadian Prime Minister Carney's meeting with China's Xi Jinping following the APEC conference. Burton described Carney as a "supplicant" who

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Canada's Troubled Relations with China and the US. Charles Burton (author of The Beaver and the Dragon) analyzes Canadian Prime Minister Carney's meeting with China's Xi Jinping following the APEC conference. Burton described Carney as a "supplicant" who echoed Chinese rhetoric of "constructive and pragmatic interactions," which means focusing on trade while avoiding criticism. Issues discussed included Chinese tariffs on Canadian canola and Canada's tariffs on subsidized Chinese EVs. Burton addresses the severely strained Ottawa-Washington relationship due to US tariffs and President Trump's stated unwillingness to talk, feeding "anti-American sentiment" in Canada. This trade uncertainty is a factor in Canada's massive budget deficit, which aims to fund government infrastructure to compensate for lacking investor interest. Furthermore, concerns persist in Canada regarding Chinese EVs potentially functioning as "listening posts" for state security.
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0:00.0	This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.
0:12.1	This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Bachelor. To Canada, my good colleague, Charles Burton,
0:19.6	the author of the new book, The Beaver and the Dragon,
0:22.6	How China Outmaneuvered Canada's Diplomacy, Security, and Sovereignty.
0:27.6	This topic, and now for Charles, is as hot as headlines,
0:33.6	because the recent meeting in Seoul, South Korea at the APEC conference of Mr. Carney, the Prime Minister of Canada,
0:41.7	and Xi Jinping, the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, has contributed to the conversation.
0:47.9	We begin, however, in Ottawa with a report from Reuters.
0:52.3	Canada's budget shortfall will more than double this year
0:55.4	as Prime Minister Mark Carney pours billions of dollars to fight U.S. tariffs,
1:00.7	boost defense spending, and diversified trade.
1:03.9	His maiden budget proposal showed.
1:06.9	Charles, a very good evening to you.
1:08.6	Thank you very much for joining.
1:10.1	The topics are rich in all directions.
1:12.1	We will come to the budget, but we begin in Seoul, South Korea. There was a conversation,
1:18.5	and it was treated as successful by the coverage in the Ottawa paper that I saw and the Toronto paper that I saw.
1:25.8	Forgive me if I missed the dissenters. It turned on three
1:29.2	subjects who taught me over the years are part of the friction between Canada and China. One is
1:36.2	canola. Two is very much to do with your energy abundance, richness. And three are the EVs, or especially the BYDs, that are
1:47.3	capable of flooding any auto market. Let us begin with the general tone of the conversation
1:52.3	from Mr. Carney and Mr. Shee. Was this generous and smiling, or was there tension in the room
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