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Wired.com presents The Geeks Guide to the Galaxy.

And here is your host, David Barcourtly.

Hello, and welcome to episode 528 of Geeks Guide to the Galaxy.

I'm David Barcourtly, author of the book Save Me Please and Other Stories, which is

available now on amazon.com.

We had a great conversation about the book back in episode 500, so definitely check that

out if you missed it.

And today's guest is Veronica Roth, who you may remember from our future interview back

in episode 409, and it's our panel on the best American science fiction and fantasy

2021 back in episode 492.

She's the author of books such as Chosen One's, Carve the Mark, and The End to Other Beginnings.

And she's her best-selling divergent novels were adapted into a series of popular films

starring Shailene Woodley and Theo James.

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