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Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Beyond the Blinds.

As always, it's Kelly and Troy and this week we are doing someone who we have talked about

a lot.

Pretty much it's like first episode, right, Troy?

Yeah, and I think even before you and I would have little conversations about him, like

he just is one of those people, even though he's like not really that famous anymore.

If you follow this kind of stuff, he is, I would say almost he's like a blind item celebrity.

Yeah, but it's weird.

He doesn't have a ton of blind items.

He has like enough, but I was really shocked at like the lack of blind items, I guess.

That is surprising, given like the people he's dated.

I know for sure.

So if you read the title of the episode, you know it's about when we're about Arama, but

before we get into all of that, we have an announcement, we are taking a little break

just for two weeks.

We are raggedy and dolls right now, we're both so exhausted.

But we appreciate you guys so much, you know, for the whole support, obviously we just

hit like a little over a year of this podcast, this podcast has changed my life.

And thank you guys for listening and thank you for also like allowing us to take two

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