This episode of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy is brought to you by Outsiders, a new novel

by former Navy pilot W.C. Collier. Outsiders is a fast-paced military thriller full of murder,

mystery, cover-ups, cutting-edge technology, and even a hint of the supernatural. Christopher

Estesnafny writes,

If you're a fan of science fiction, I'd call this one a must-read. The author's detailed

knowledge of all things military provides a solid foundation for a story that accelerates

as you go. So again, the book is called Outsiders by W.C. Collier, and you can learn more

over at WCCollier.com. Alright, so now let's get to our show.

Hello, and welcome to episode 512 of Geek's Guide to the Galaxy. Our guest today is Stephen

Marsh. He's a calmness for Esquire magazine, and his writing has also appeared in the Atlantic,

the New Yorker, the New York Times, and the Wall Street Journal. And in this interview,

we'll be discussing his werewolf novel, The Hunger of the Wolf, and his nonfiction

book, The Next of the War, Dispatches from the American Future. And today's show is brought

to you by the new novel Outsiders by W.C. Collier. Collier is a former Navy pilot with

a computer science background, who wrote Outsiders while deployed to Somalia with the spec ops

unit. And here's a description of the book, it says,

A special forces unit on what should have been an uncontested extraction op is nearly wiped

out in an ambush, only to be rescued at the last moment by an unseen benefactor. Meanwhile,

half a world away, a small team of graduate students is experimenting with a new method

for creating AI, which uses a tiny process running on thousands of different computers

to solve problems. It's technical work, as a tariff, exactly the kind of thing that

excites Melody Ritter, one of the students on the team. But when the team begins large-scale

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