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51: PREVIEW. The Crisis of AI Literacy: Protecting Vulnerable Communities from Misusing Chatbots. Kevin Frazier discusses the dangers of young people misusing AI chatbots due to a significant lack of public awareness and basic AI literacy. Designers assume us

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW. The Crisis of AI Literacy: Protecting Vulnerable Communities from Misusing Chatbots. Kevin Frazier discusses the dangers of young people misusing AI chatbots due to a significant lack of public awareness and basic AI literacy. Designers assume users know chatbots are merely objectification and optimization, not real opinions or people. Frazier stresses the need for educating consumers on the best and improper uses of these tools for responsible innovation.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchelor, a conversation with my colleague Kevin Fraser at the University of Texas Law School

0:06.4

about artificial intelligence, the chatbots that you can pull up on various sites, and children, teenagers, young people.

0:16.2

There are tragedies already recorded of young people using AI improperly or without guidance leading to

0:24.1

their self-destruction. What is to be done? There are states, California and Illinois are named,

0:31.3

who are looking at legislation in some fashion. Kevin identifies the problem here, Kevin Fraser, and he leads us

0:41.5

towards a conclusion that seems practical. First, the problem, what is to be done about the assumptions

0:49.3

by the AI designers in Silicon Valley that that everybody understands it.

0:55.3

And the facts of the matter that not only do the children not always understand

0:59.4

that it's not a real person, it's not a real opinion.

1:04.4

It's a sum total of objectification and optimization of response time.

1:11.6

It's not real, but children and adults, their adults,

1:15.6

aren't necessarily educated to understand that it's not a real opinion.

1:20.6

It's not a real person in there.

1:22.6

What is to be done?

1:23.6

Here's Kevin Fraser to describe the scale of the problem that as of yet, according to his reporting, is not understood by either the high end, the people making the money, and the low end, the people that are consuming the product.

1:38.3

Much more of this tonight.

1:40.1

Is a real dearth of public awareness of how these tools actually work.

1:45.3

John, as you pointed out, they're trained to provide answers that are going to generally please the user themselves

1:51.8

or align with whatever the user was seeking in the first place.

1:55.5

So when you put these tools in the hands of kids who may not have that background familiarity of AI and may not

2:02.7

have parents who have that background familiarity, then the odds are there that they're

2:07.3

going to misuse these tools in really significant ways.

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