This is John Batchel, conversation with colleague Jack Burnham of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies,

about the afterday, the after day of the meeting in Seoul, South Korea by President Trump and

General Secretary Xi Jinping. There looks to be a muted respect for each other in some fashion perhaps just a ceasefire however

what happens afterwards is jack to talk about what happens in ceasefires that do not solve the

problem of confrontation much more of this tonight. Jack Burnham.

I think there likely will be a return escalation. I think we've seen, you know, from talks in London, in Madrid, in Geneva, all of these previous talks of there's a form of a ceasefire or a deal or the framework of a deal. And then typically down the road, two,

three, four months later, either Washington or Beijing takes a step that the other perceives to be competitive or in violation of the spirit of the agreement. And then you see a return to

escalation. What the trigger may be

in this particular case, I think, remains to be seen. I think particularly want something to watch

is the United States, China promise to purchase soybeans. This is a promise they've made before.

This was a promise they made under the first Trump administration in the phase one trade deal. And this is something that President Trump clearly cares a lot about.

And I think it's a space to watch is, does China hold up its promises around purchasing

American agriculture commodities? Historically, they've made significant promises and then

failed to fulfill them. I think it may be a similar, it may be a similar case here in which China doesn't live up to its promised expectations of purchasing American products, which then draws President Trump's ire.