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This American Life

508: Superpowers

This American Life

This American Life

Society & Culture, News, Politics, Arts

4.688.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

We answer the following questions about superpowers: Can superheroes be real people? (No.) Can real people become superheroes? (Maybe.) And which is better: flight or invisibility? (Depends who you ask.)

  • Host Ira Glass talks to comic artist Chris Ware, who thought about superheroes a lot of the time as a kid. He invented his own character and made a superhero costume, which he wore to school under his regular clothes. Which went fine until he realized he would have to change for gym class. (6 minutes)
  • Act One: John Hodgman conducts an informal survey in which he asks the age-old question: Which is better: The power of flight or the power of invisibility? (14 minutes)
  • Act Two: Kelly McEvers with the story of Zora, a self-made superhero. From the time she was five years old, Zora had recurring dreams in which she was a 6'5" warrior queen, who could fly and shoot lightning from her hands. She made a list, pages and pages long, of all the things she could accomplish to actually become that superhero: martial arts, evasive driving, bomb defusing. By the time she was 30, most of her list had been checked off. She was as close to a superhero as any mortal could hope to come. But her dream had changed. (17 minutes)
  • Act Three: Ira talks with Jonathan Morris, the amazingly funny and charming editor of the website "Gone and Forgotten," an internet archive of failed comic book characters. Jonathan explains what makes a new superhero succeed, and what makes him tank. (9 minutes)
  • Act Four: Of course you can’t be a superhero without a supervillain trying to destroy you. And the most interesting supervillains, of course, are the ones who think that they're the real heroes, not the guys in the capes. Glynn Washington tells the story of Evil D. (9 minutes)

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When we were weak, we told ourselves we were strong.

0:04.0

And sometimes, if we were very weak, we told ourselves we were very, very strong.

0:10.0

I mean, on question and play, I was by far the most low-thmember of my class, I think,

0:17.0

you know, being a pasty, unethical kid who was weird looking and probably seemed overly eager.

0:25.0

So, you know, and I had friends that would come over on the weekends, you know, to play,

0:31.0

but then at school, they would ignore me and pretend like they didn't know me.

0:35.0

And so when it was little, Chris Ware, the guy who was just hearing,

0:39.0

spent a lot of time thinking about superpowers.

0:42.0

He drew superheroes over and over trying to get them right.

0:45.0

He always wanted to wear somebody to find a radioactive animal, like the one the bit Peter Parker turned them into the amazing spider-man.

0:52.0

And a couple of times, Chris thought that he might be developing his own superpowers.

0:56.0

Real worth.

0:57.0

There was one morning where I was standing under the shower,

1:01.0

and of course, when you get in immediately, because you're so cold, the water is extremely hot by contrast, you know.

1:07.0

So you have the cold water turned up, and as you stand in there, you get used to it,

1:11.0

and you turn the cold water down, you know.

1:13.0

And I was in there for a very long time, and I remember turning the cold, and it wouldn't go any farther.

1:19.0

And I thought, well, that's weird. It must be stuck, and I turned it more, and it wouldn't go any farther.

1:24.0

And I realized I was standing under completely hot water, but I was, it felt fine to me.

1:32.0

It actually felt warm, almost cool.

1:35.0

And the longer I stood there, it felt cooler and cooler.

1:38.0

And the only explanation I could come up with is that I developed the ability to withstand extraordinary heat.

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