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I wanted to interview for some time and I'm just really excited.

She's one of the coolest Mormons I know and her name is Carrie Sheffield.

Carrie, I've known for a couple years because she is sort of interacted with the Mormon Stories Facebook community in New York City.

But in the past couple years she's become a bit I would say of a rising star in kind of political media.

So she's appeared on Fox News on MSNBC.

She's even appeared on HBO's Real Time with Bill Marr, The Blaze.

And she's also written for several publications including The Wall Street Journal, Time USA Today, New York Times, Washington Post, etc.

She attended Harvard University to get her masters.

Was it public administration? Carrie?

Public policy. Public policy. Yeah.

And she's what's that?

It's the same school, public policy, public administration. It's all just an alphabet soup of letters.

Yep. And she's kind of interesting because she is sort of I'd say post Mormon or ex Mormon, maybe even progressive in some ways.

But she's very much in the camp of let's just say Republican conservatism or however you pronounce that word.

And so it's a bit of a paradox. And so we're going to talk about that today.

This is kind of stretching my memories a bit because actually I was a political science major at BYU back in the day.

I worked for a summer on Capitol Hill as a congressional intern.

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