Well, hey friend, welcome to Java with Julie, hosted by me, Julie Slattery.

This podcast is listener-supported, and it's an outreach of authentic intimacy,

which is a ministry dedicated to helping people make sense of God and sexuality.

While pornography has become so normal in our world, we have just accepted it as if it's a fact of life.

Many men and women get hooked developing a true sexual addiction.

For most individuals and couples, this sexual addiction is somewhat of a secret and is rarely addressed until there's a crisis.

And even then, there might be a stumbling journey of promises, getting help, and then relapse.

This cycle has a devastating impact on a person's relationship with God and his or her relationships,

particularly in marriage.

What does it look like to actually find freedom?

How can a marriage be restored after decades of this kind of deceit and half-hearted steps towards recovery? Well, that's where we're headed today in my conversation with Phil and Priscilla Fretwell. They are the founders of Savage Marriage Ministries. Now, this is a very candid conversation that I think you're going to find riveting.

And honestly, it really applies to any longstanding sin that we might have in our lives.

Phil and Priscilla's journey shows us how only the power of God and true repentance can break cycles of bondage and deceit.

Well, Phil and Priscilla, thanks so much for being willing to share very openly your story.

Your ministry is called the Savage Marriage.

Is that right?

The Savage Marriage Ministries.

Yeah, and Savage is a pretty direct word.

Yeah, pretty aggressive, isn't it? Yeah, I know.

Why did you choose Savage?

Well, it really wasn't us because it was our youngest son who came up with the title

because our title would have been very boring.

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