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America Dissected

50 years after Tuskegee with Prof. Rueben C. Warren

America Dissected

Incision Media LLC

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Support for this podcast comes from the Marguerite Casey Foundation, which imagines a world where all communities are represented in our economy and democracy.

0:07.0

The Foundation supports leaders, scholars, and initiatives focused on building power for communities to shape how society works and share in its rewards and freedoms.

0:15.0

To learn more about the Foundation and find ways to get involved, visit MCF at their website, kcgrance.org and on social media at kcgrance.

0:31.0

The President suffered a post-packsle of it rebound, testing positive again after several negative tests.

0:36.0

The surge in COVID cases resulting from BA-5 appears to have slowed over the past few weeks.

0:40.0

The Biden administration pushes pause on another round of boosters for those under 50 holding out for an updated booster in the fall.

0:47.0

This is America Dissected. I'm your host, Dr. Abdul-Lal Sayyam.

0:58.0

Trust the science. You'd hear it all the time during the height of the pandemic lockdowns in 2020.

1:03.0

It became one of liberal America's favorite catchphrases, but that phrase always made me wince just a little bit when I'd hear it.

1:10.0

First, as I've discussed a bunch of times on the show, it's implicit in science to be mistrusted. Science moves because people don't trust it.

1:17.0

You replicate experiments to verify them and then test alternative hypotheses.

1:21.0

But that's not the main reason that phrase always got to me. Because science isn't just a process, or even the outcomes of a process,

1:28.0

it's whether we like to admit it or not, a whole set of institutions, institutions are collections of people.

1:34.0

And as much as scientists wish they were totally objective, evidence-driven characters we aspire to be, we are part and parcel of a culture, and we are susceptible to the same biases.

1:44.0

We're still in thinking that we are objective. Scientists are sometimes the most blind to the ways our biases shape us.

1:51.0

It's not that science isn't the incredible tool for understanding the world around us. It is. Make no mistake about that.

1:57.0

It's just that we as scientists are imperfect, sometimes terribly so.

2:01.0

Terrible things have been done in the name of science, and one of the worst is the subject of our discussion today.

2:07.0

When I served the city of Detroit, which is 85% black, we often struggle to get parents to vaccinate their children.

2:12.0

We struggle to get parents to test their children for lead. We struggled to engage families on a number of issues we try to tackle.

2:18.0

Well-meaning folks from outside the city, usually white, would say things like, I can't understand why these people won't just take care of themselves.

2:25.0

I'd wince even more, just like trust the science.

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