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Hi, I'm Jim Clemente. I'm a retired FBI profiler and former New York City prosecutor.

And this is real crime profile today with

Laura Richards, former New Scotland Yard and FBI trained.

I also set up and I'm the director of Paladin, the National Stalking Advocacy Service.

And I'm Lisa Zendetti and the casting director for Criminal Minds,

where I cast killers, victims and everything in between.

And I have a real interest in real crime in the minds that solve those crimes.

So here we are again.

So today we have just listened together to the interview

for the Nancy Grayshow of Jodi Strakowski.

Steven Avery's fiance at one point.

And we've listened to the interview.

We've taken notes in our analysis, Laura and I,

and we are now going to discuss them.

We have not discussed what our findings were yet.

And we hope to give you some insights that we saw behaviorally in this interview.

Although I certainly say that I have discussed this interview

and the disclosure of Jodi's account

because I was asked to go on Dr. Drew the very day that actually this hit the news

and this disclosure of her abuse at the hands of Steven Avery came out.

So, and there were lots of mixed reactions from people.

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