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🗓️ 7 March 2023
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This week, 5-4 invites you to check out an episode of Unreformed: the Story of the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children, hosted by friend-of-the-pod Josie Duffy Rice.
In 1968, police arrested five Black girls dressed in oversized military fatigues in Montgomery. The girls were runaways, escaping from a state-run reform school called the Alabama Industrial School for Negro Children in Mount Meigs, Alabama. The girls were determined to tell someone about the abuse they’d suffered there: physical and sexual violence, unlivable facilities, and grueling labor in the fields surrounding the school. It was, as several former students called it, a slave camp.
UNREFORMED is the story of how this reform school derailed the lives of thousands of Black children in Alabama for decades and what happened after those five girls found someone willing to blow the whistle. Host Josie Duffy Rice investigates the history of the school at the tail end of the Civil Rights movement in Alabama and speaks to former students who are still haunted by their experience but had the will to survive.
If you like Unreformed, you can find it here: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-unreformed-the-story-of-t-107005437/
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0:00.0 | Hey folks, following up on our conversation about juvenile rights with Josie Duffy Rice last week, |
0:05.5 | we wanted to share an episode of her new podcast, Unreformed. Unreformed is the story of how mount |
0:11.5 | megs of reform school in Alabama derailed the lives of thousands of black children for decades, |
0:18.8 | and what happened after someone blew the whistle. In the series debut, we hear from a woman who |
0:25.2 | managed to escape mount megs. She was determined to tell someone about the abuse she had suffered |
0:31.4 | there, the unlivable facilities, and the grueling labor students were forced to do in the surrounding |
0:37.0 | fields. But what's most unbelievable about this story is that mount megs is still open today. |
0:44.2 | To hear the rest of the series, you can find Unreformed wherever you get your podcasts. |
0:50.7 | This podcast episode discusses historical events that include physical abuse against children. |
1:03.7 | Earlier this year, I drove from Atlanta where I live to Mount Gumriale, Alabama. |
1:10.6 | It's about a three hour drive, depending on traffic. I've been to Mount Gumri plenty, but this |
1:17.4 | time was different. In fact, I wasn't going to the city of Mount Gumriale, but to a little |
1:24.0 | unincorporated part of the county called Mount Megs. I was there to set foot on the grounds of an |
1:31.2 | old Alabama institution that I'd spent the last year investigating. It was hot outside, over 90 degrees. |
1:41.6 | I drove down a long road looking for my destination, but other than a few houses, it was most |
1:47.6 | empty until you pull up to the entrance. It's a long, huge stretch of land right by the highway |
2:00.9 | in an area of Mount Gumriale. There's really not much, which is sort of saying something, |
2:07.8 | because Mount Gumriale isn't the most happening town anyway. When you pull in on your right is a huge |
2:15.2 | stretch of like swamp land filled with sticks and scum and mud. |
2:22.4 | Outside of the entrance to the actual youth center, you just see gates and |
2:29.2 | fog bar fence, and it looks like a prison. |
2:37.2 | So I drove up the long driveway, lined with trees. I drove past the visitors building, |
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