Hi, this is Lily DeHoya Sanderson, and you're listening to Choosing Voie. Thank you for joining me

as we discuss sections 58 and 59 of the Doctrine of Covenants today. And first, just a little

business. I did post recently on Patreon the information about protest masculinity.

I also was able to do a Q&A concerning cautions about enabling adult children.

That is for the VIP subscribers. There are links below in the description

under both the video and the audio podcast if you're interested in subscribing to Patreon and

helping to support this podcast. The subscribers are making all a difference. So thank you,

thank you, thank you, and more

information to come on Patreon, but I'm really grateful to get those two things up. There were

several questions about how difficult it can be to help adult children without enabling. So

there's quite a lot of content on that now available for the VIP level. Also, I wanted to thank

many of you who got back to me about the mention that I made about the crucifixion

versus the garden or the cross versus the garden in terms of where did Christ suffer.

And someone of you mentioned John Hilton.

I'm really grateful for the clarification.

I had seen his name as I was looking, but I couldn't find this specific video that I was listening to.

And of course, he's repeated this information on several.

Turns out, with that additional help from those of you who messaged in that it was actually a kind of a shorter piece that I saw when he was on the Let's Get Real with Stephen Jones podcast.

Again, John Hilton, the third, has done very many podcasts on this topic.

So you are all correct. That's who I was thinking about. He's an ancient scripture professor at

BYU, and he specifically says that it's actually nine to one, that over a thousand of mostly earliest people that he surveyed when he gave

them the choice as to where Christ suffered the most for our sins in the Garden of

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