5.20: No Exit (with Fmr. Senator Tom Daschle, Wilson Cruz, and Eli Attie)

The West Wing Weekly

Joshua Malina & Hrishikesh Hirway

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4.9 • 12.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2018

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

We’re joined by three guests for our discussion of "No Exit." Former Senator Tom Daschle tells us about what it was like getting sent anthrax in the mail; Wilson Cruz tells us about playing Jack Sosa for his two episodes on The West Wing; and Eli Attie tells us about the writing of the episode, specifically the Will and Toby scenes, which he co-wrote with Peter Noah. But first, a poem that this episode inspired Hrishi to write:

Albert Camus
Cried, "What do we do?
We're all stuck here in a cell!"

So Samuel Beckett
Got totally nekkid.
"Let's go!" he started to yell.

But Jean-Paul Sartre
Just let out a fartre
And said, "Other people are hell."

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0:00.0	We're back. You're listening to The West Wing Weekly. I'm Joshua Molina.
0:11.0	And I'm Rishikesh Urway. And today we're talking about no exit. It's season 5, episode
0:15.7	20.
0:16.7	Let me throw some names at you. This episode was written by Carol Flint and Debra Khan.
0:22.2	The story was conceived by Carol Flint and Mark Goughman, and the episode was directed
0:26.8	by Julie Abert, Julie being the second person in the cast and crew with the nextante
0:33.2	goo in her name.
0:35.3	And what was the air day?
0:37.2	Oh, nice. Brilliant. April 28, 2004.
0:42.7	Here is synopsis. After a black tie dinner, the president and his staff are locked down
0:47.3	in the White House when a foreign substance is detected inside, forcing an odd coupling
0:51.3	of people who are forced to occupy small rooms where they share personal reflections.
0:55.8	And some turn confrontational when Toby accuses Will of backstabbing Bartlett.
0:59.9	The odd coupling, sorry, just sounds like a great idea for TV show.
1:04.6	As the inspection continues, the president, Federer and Charlie submit to intense inspection
1:09.1	while in other corners, CJ has strong career advice for Donna and Josh Quarry's security
1:14.6	advisor Kate on why his joke was deleted from the chief's speech.
1:18.8	Before we jump in, I want to say we threw out in our last podcast episode a request to
1:25.1	come up with what Will Bailey's expositional nickname would be.
1:29.0	Yeah, at Will Bailey, the Microsoft office paperclip.
1:32.2	Exactly. The consensus seems to be that it would be a William Tell.
1:36.7	A William Tell.
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