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4th Of July, Protest, The Constitution and Slavery (Some Sunday Context)

This Day

Jody Avirgan & Radiotopia

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4.6982 Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

This episode is part of our "Some Sunday Context" series where we are bringing you episodes from the archives and new conversations that try to give you a little historical perspective on current events. Today, an episode we recorded in 2021 about an anti-slavery protest in 1854, and how it brought up fundamental questions about our founding documents, freedom, and more.

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0:00.0

Hey everyone, Jody Abergan here. Welcome to This Day, a history show from Radiotopia.

0:07.1

Now, on Sundays from time to time, we try and do these episodes that we call Some Sunday context,

0:12.2

giving you a little historical perspective on the big stories of the moment. And Lord knows,

0:17.1

coming off the week we just had, we need some perspective. One of the big stories this past week was that we saw a number of Supreme Court rulings

0:24.5

that are redefining executive power and judicial power, offering support for many of the

0:30.0

moves that the Trump administration is taking and maybe more importantly, undermining

0:34.0

some of the checks on those moves from the judiciary.

0:37.4

Thinking about that and thinking

0:38.6

about some important perspective, I almost re-ran an episode here that we did on court packing,

0:44.0

attempts to try and reshape and expand the court in order to rebalance power. Because a lot of people,

0:50.1

at least a lot of progressives, think that one of the only ways to really turn things around,

0:54.8

given the current makeup of the Supreme Court, will be to reshape the judiciary.

0:59.6

So we're not going to run that here, but if you want to go listen to the episode we did on

1:02.5

FDR's failed attempt to pack the courts, you can go find that in the archives.

1:06.7

We'll post a link to it on social and in the newsletter.

1:09.7

But instead, for some context today, here is an episode tied to 4th of July.

1:14.0

It is indeed 4th of July week here in the United States.

1:17.0

And yes, it's a great time for barbecues and beaches and swimming.

1:20.3

And I will be doing all three of those later this week.

1:23.2

But I suppose it's as good of a time as any to also think about this country's founding principles,

1:28.4

founding documents, and that thorny question about what this American experiment of ours is really

1:33.7

all about. So here's an episode we did about an anti-slavery protest that took place on the 4th of

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