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Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

498 - Ian Urbina (Journalist / The Outlaw Ocean)

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Ian Urbina is an investigative reporter who writes for a variety of outlets, including The New York Times, The New Yorker, and The Atlantic. Urbina is the author of The New York Times bestseller The Outlaw Ocean, based on more than five years of reporting, much of it offshore, exploring lawlessness on the high seas. As a journalist, his investigations typically focus on human rights, worker safety and the environment, and he has received a Pulitzer Prize and a George Polk Award, and has been nominated for an Emmy. (Wikipedia)

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0:00.0

Radio Manu, Papa Tchango.

0:02.3

Hello ladies and gentleman, welcome to another edition of Tangent Release

0:32.2

speaking today's guest is a very interesting guy who's doing important work in the world.

0:39.7

His name is Ian Orbina.

0:41.9

You are B.I.

0:42.9

And a Urbina or Bina, not sure which accent is right there.

0:48.5

But in any case, he's one of Pulitzer Prize George Polk Award.

0:54.7

He's a binominated friend, Emmy.

0:56.3

He's a very serious journalist who's not afraid to laugh, I'm happy to say.

1:03.9

And he's doing very serious work, but he maintains a sense of humor about it.

1:08.6

And we talk about these things.

1:11.4

His last book is a New York Times best seller.

1:13.7

It's called The Outlaw Ocean, based on more than five years of reporting.

1:20.4

He spent a lot of time on ships exploring lawlessness on the high seas, ranging from smuggling,

1:29.9

arms trafficking, human smuggling, drugs smuggling, you know, the whole thing.

1:37.1

Everything you can imagine, dumping oil and garbage and all sorts of stuff out there where

1:43.4

nobody can, nobody catches you.

1:46.8

And yeah.

1:48.5

So it's a very important work.

1:50.7

He's doing, you know, if you say a journalist at best is someone who brings things into

2:00.2

the light that are happening in the darkness and the deepest darkness is distance, right?

2:08.3

The most hidden place on the earth is some spot out in the middle of the ocean, where no

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