496. Evita: The World's Most Powerful Woman (Part 3)

The Rest Is History

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🗓️ 22 September 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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“There is only one man who can lead any worker’s regime.” Together, Eva and Colonel Perón built a political movement powered by operatic rhetoric. Perónism promised genuine benefits for the working class, denouncing violence and emphasising ritual and spectacle. Eva embodied the working-class migrant to Buenos Aires that Perón sought to attract, and she increasingly entered the role of his partner both at home and in government. Ostentatiously flamboyant in her dress sense, how did Evita become a woman of the people who also wore Christian Dior? Listen as Tom and Dominic unpack how Eva became Evita, the most powerful woman in global politics. _______ *The Rest Is History LIVE in the U.S.A.* If you live in the States, we've got some great news: Tom and Dominic will be performing throughout America in November, with shows in San Francisco, L.A., Chicago, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Boston and New York. *The Rest Is History LIVE at the Royal Albert Hall* Tom and Dominic, accompanied by a live orchestra, take a deep dive into the lives and times of two of history’s greatest composers: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Ludwig van Beethoven. Tickets on sale now at TheRestIsHistory.com _______ Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Assistant Producer: Tabby Syrett + Anouska Lewis Editor: Becki Hills Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Thank you for listening to the rest is history.
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0:15.0	The Rest is History.
0:16.0	. . . . . . . . There is only one man who can lead any workers regime. He lives for your problems, he shares your ideals in your dream. He supports you for he loves you
0:36.8	understands you is one of you if not how could he love me?
0:43.0	So that of course was Aveda Dominic in the eponymous musical by Andrew Lloyd Weber and Tim Rice and she is appealing to the Des Camissados, the poor of Argentina and saying that Perron is on their side.
1:00.8	And one of the things that I've really enjoyed about doing the series is seeing the way in which the story in the musical which is probably the version of Evita's life that most people listening to this will be most familiar with, how it maps on to the reality,
1:15.3	but also the way in which Tim Rice, who's such a brilliant lyricist, has kind of used the raw material.
1:20.8	So there's a speech that Ava gives in 1949. Basically it is in prose what those lyrics from the musical are.
1:28.0	The opposition says that it is fanatic, that I'm a fanatic for Perron and for the people that I'm dangerous because I'm too
1:33.7	sectarian and too fanatical on Perron's behalf but I answer them with Perron fanaticism is the wisdom of the
1:38.7	spirit I say yes I am fanatically for Perron and for the Deschemisadas of the nation. So she is fusing the two and she's offering herself. She loves the Deschemisadas. She loves Perron. Perfect. Marriage made in heaven.
1:52.4	It's why actually in other circumstances I would say your lamentable singing.
1:57.1	I would discourage it but as you know Tom I really have encouraged you to sing in these
2:00.2	episodes. I mean I say that in all sincerity I couldn't get enough of it.
2:03.7	If you've been begging me to sing the West End musical which is melodramatic and its
2:08.8	critics said that of Angela and Tim Rice's work at the time, but that matches perfectly the style of
2:15.1	Peronist rhetoric.
2:16.7	And her constant talk of love, of martyrdom, of sacrifice, which I think she got, you know, from
2:21.9	the world of the tango from the soap operas
2:23.7	that she had grown up doing from her teens onwards I think that gives
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