Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

Hey everyone, I'm going to the show. Today's episode I'm joined by Boxes, Stack Po-Champ, discusses new book, The Reactionary Spirit,

Power America's Most Inciduous, Political Frition Sweat the World.

This episode is all about the state of global democracy in the United States, India, in Europe, the UK, all across the world. We're seeing this real contest between the forces of liberalism and illiberalism.

Really interesting conversation,

we had a bunch of different points,

everything from the state of the two parties

to campaign finance and everything between.

Hope you all enjoy the conversation.

Huge thank you to the Foundation for American Innovation

supporting the work of this podcast.

Zach, O-Champ, welcome to the realignment.

Hey, I'm so happy to be here.

This is going to be really fun.

Pumped to chat with you.

I think this is a great time for the book to come out because we can do both the day-to-day

portal analysis that you do for your day job at Fox, but also really bring the themes of our moment into the actual book itself. So I want to start by

quoting from two different pieces of work, the first of which is your book. So at the top of your book

jacket, you say, to save

democracy in America and around the world, we need to understand the real

source of the threat, the reactionary spirit. A lot of folks are going to hear that and very much like place your book and your work in this like Trump moment sense.

The other thing I'd like to read from and then just get your reaction from is the Washington Post put out a

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