I'm Tim here today with Lance. Lance, how are you today?

I'm doing fantastic today, Tim. The conversation that we have today is a classic crawl space conversation. We have an

audio producer and storyteller on the show today. We have had a friendship with this person for a little

while now and love the fact that she has taken her talents and created an amazing podcast. But Tim, before we get

to that, I want to create an amazing image of your mood. How are you today? Not one of my better

ones. I'll give you that. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Yeah, I'm doing well over here. Very excited

to introduce our conversation with Emily Reeves.

And Emily Reeves produced a four-part audio documentary series that is called Violence Week.

And you can get that on your favorite podcatcher.

It's called Violence Week.

Very interesting story about an outburst of violence at her high school, actually, in East

Lansing, Michigan. And it led to the discovery of a gun and a lot of racial questions and the

role of police officers in schools is worthy of a deep dive in this series as well, which I found very interesting.

You're right. It is very interesting. And the way Emily tells this story is in such a

manner that you can almost feel the tension that's building up. And the discovery of this gun

is the inciting moment that causes this pot to boil over. It's really representative

of a lot of things that are happening over the past 10, 15 years, 20 years. And Emily turns

a conversation around at one moment when she asked us if we had any police presence at our school consistently when we were

in high school. And you did because there were some incidents that had happened that had caused

them to be there on a consistent basis. No school shootings though, but I didn't. When she asked

that question, I was like trying to imagine what that would have been like as a student. And it just

would have been the most like insane thing to think that the police officers that I knew in

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