#49: Apple v FBI- On Hold... For Now

Tech Policy Podcast

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4.8 • 45 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2016

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Apple’s battle with the FBI in California is on hold for now, but the battle is far from over. This week, a federal magistrate postponed a court hearing on the case scheduled for Tuesday. Initially, the FBI had asked Apple to help it unlock the iPhone of Syed Farook, one of the San Bernardino shooters. But now, the agency is saying it found an “outside party,” rumored to be an Israeli cybersecurity firm, to help unlock the phone. What does this mean for the ongoing debate over tech companies’ cooperation with law enforcement? Evan and Berin discuss. For more, see Berin’s post on Medium.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the Tech Policy Podcast. I'm Evan Swartzchstraber, your host. On today's show, Apple's fight with the FBI in California is on hold. This week, the San Bernardino Magistrate was supposed to hold a hearing, and a day before the hearing, the FBI postponed the
0:22.5	hearing because the Bureau said it had found a way into the phone that had caused so much
0:28.3	controversy and really sparked a global debate about digital security. Joining me to discuss
0:34.2	this is someone who is not secure in any way.
0:37.9	Baron, Soka.
0:38.4	Baron, thank you for joining me.
0:40.3	Oh, I forgot to add, you're also president of Tech Freedom.
0:42.9	Well, you know, that's where that meanness comes from, Evan.
0:45.0	It's deep-seated insecurity.
0:49.2	So, Baron, clearly people were really excited about this hearing.
0:53.4	I mean, this is an intense debate and the FBI
0:56.1	kind of just threw a wrench into the whole thing. And after they had previously said that they had
1:01.6	exhausted all options, they are now saying they have a method. And just to bring listeners up to speed,
1:07.5	what initially started the Apple's fight with the FBI and the DOJ and the
1:11.5	president and the court in San Bernardino is one of the San Bernardino attackers, Syed Farouk,
1:18.4	his phone has a security feature. It's a passcode. And if you guess the wrong passcode,
1:24.9	10 times the phone wipes itself, which would then deny the FBI any potential data on the phone.
1:30.6	They asked, a court mandated that Apple write proprietary software to remove the 10 times limit so that the FBI could hook up a supercomputer and guess as many passwords as it wants.
1:42.9	Apple reviews.
1:43.7	Basically stop the phone from deleting its content.
1:46.0	Right. The self-destruct feature.
1:47.5	So this is not the same as necessarily the broader encryption debate.
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