So I had the opportunity today to speak with Spencer Claven.

I met Spencer, partly through my connections with the Daily Wire,

but also more specifically, we filmed a documentary together for the Foundations of the West series

that's now available on the Daily Wire. You could take a look at it there. There's a series of dinner

meetings that go along with that as well that expand out the ideas

that we analyze. The more proximal reason for speaking with Spencer today was that he has a new book

coming out called Light of the Mind, Light of the World, which is available in mid-October, 24,

just a couple of weeks after this episode in particular was taped.

And we walked through his book, which is an analysis of the, what would you say,

of the development of the ideas of the scientific revolution and an examination of their

relationship to the religious ideas that still surround them and that constitute their

metaphysical basis, but also an analysis of the dynamic relationship between those systems,

those systems of ideas, religion versus science, let's say, as those ideas progressed through

time since the dawn of the scientific revolution.

For me, during the conversation, time flew by very rapidly, and Spencer said he had the same experience.

So we're hoping that that spirit of timelessness that encompasses you when you are investigating honestly,

things that you believe to be true, will also surround you as you watch this

discussion. So welcome to that. So Spencer, the last time we had any real opportunity to speak

together was in Athens. Right. Right in front of the Acropolis, which now we've got the Arizona

mountains in the background, but it's a bit of a change.

Yeah, yeah. Well, it was a good deal to meet in Athens, and that was part for everybody watching and listening.

That was part of the Foundations of the West documentary series, which has been recently released on the Daily Wire Plus platform.

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