I don't like a lot of the sort of rhetoric and the toxic positivity in the new age movement

that I sort of come from because I don't think that's realistic and I don't think it's

honest.

Okay, guys, welcome back to the Grand American Show.

We are going to be chatting with Owen Hunt a little bit later.

Actually, pretty quick.

This is not a Grand American episode per se.

It's from the Outlawed Show, Grand American Outlawed, Grand American Outlawed.ca.

This is the free portion of the show we did with Owen Hunt.

So if you're already subscribed to Outlawed, you probably heard it already, but if you're

not subscribed to our outlawed feed, you haven't heard it.

And this is, I think, the first show we've actually done on Outlawed that we don't think

we'll get kicked off of YouTube or taken down anywhere, it ended up being a little less

controversial.

A little less controversial, probably the least controversial F we've done in Outlawed

so far.

And one of your favorites.

My favorite all-time interviews, so we figured we'd bring it on here and share it with

you guys and let you listen to it.

The free part of it anyway.

If you guys want to go check out that Outlawed feed, there's a bunch of stuff in there.

If you haven't listened to it yet, then we're actually chatting with David Ike in a couple

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