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🗓️ 10 June 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Better conversations help you build stronger relationships, understand others more deeply, and make meaningful progress - together.
In this episode, Sarah talks to Jefferson Fisher, lawyer, speaker, and best-selling author, about five common situations where conversations can get tricky. From dealing with someone very different to you, to getting interrupted, or feeling stuck in people-pleasing, Jefferson shares simple shifts that can help you handle these moments with more clarity and confidence.
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0:00.0 | Hi everyone, my name's Sarah and this is the Squiggly Careers podcast. This week is one of our |
0:08.8 | Ask the Expert episodes where I'll be talking to Jefferson Fisher, who's the author of a book called |
0:15.3 | The Next Conversation and you might also know him from his very popular YouTube and Instagram videos where he talks |
0:22.9 | all about how we can communicate better. He's a lawyer. He still is a lawyer in Texas. And he's just |
0:30.3 | created all of these incredibly useful short videos to help with some of those challenges that I think |
0:36.4 | we can all appreciate. |
0:38.3 | Things like small talk, what to do when someone disagrees with you. |
0:42.9 | What about when somebody's very different to you? |
0:45.7 | And I think you're going to really find this conversation useful. |
0:49.1 | It's very practical. |
0:50.5 | Jefferson is an absolute pro. |
0:52.9 | He was a real pleasure to spend time with every |
0:55.9 | situation or scenario that I threw his way. He had an action or an idea that felt really |
1:03.7 | relevant and that I could put into practice really quickly. So I hope you find this conversation |
1:08.7 | as useful as I did and I'll be back at the end to say bye. |
1:14.3 | So Jefferson, thank you so much for joining us on the Squiggly Careers podcast. I'm really looking |
1:18.2 | forward to our conversation today. Thank you so much for having me. I'm honored to be here. |
1:22.0 | We are going to dive straight in with some common situations that I think lots of our listeners |
1:27.1 | will recognize and probably need some help with. that I think lots of our listeners will recognise and probably need |
1:29.6 | some help with. And from watching lots of your videos on Instagram and if you've not watched |
1:33.8 | those, I'd really recommend them and kind of reading your book, you've got really practical |
1:37.4 | ideas. So that's where I think we can kind of be most helpful for our listeners today. |
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