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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

482. The Meaning Crisis: Resolution | Dr. John Vervaeke

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🗓️ 19 September 2024

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in person with associate professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, author, and podcaster, Dr. John Vervaeke. They discuss the alignment between the Gospel accounts and Western civilization; Neoplatonism as it applies to Christianity; the voluntary necessity of reason, love, and beauty; and what really caused the Roman Empire to fall. John Vervaeke is an associate professor of psychology and cognitive science at the University of Toronto. John researches and publishes on the nature of intelligence, rationality, wisdom, and meaning in life, emphasizing relevance realization, non-propositional kinds of knowing, and 4E cognitive science. This episode was filmed on September 5th, 2024. Watch “Depression & Anxiety” - https://bit.ly/3XxsOTv Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in person with associate professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, author, and podcaster, Dr. John Vervaeke. They discuss the alignment between the Gospel accounts and Western civilization; Neoplatonism as it applies to Christianity; the voluntary necessity of reason, love, and beauty; and what really caused the Roman Empire to fall. John Vervaeke is an associate professor of psychology and cognitive science at the University of Toronto. John researches and publishes on the nature of intelligence, rationality, wisdom, and meaning in life, emphasizing relevance realization, non-propositional kinds of knowing, and 4E cognitive science. This episode was filmed on September 5th, 2024. Unlock the ad-free experience of The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast and dive into exclusive bonus content on DailyWire+. Start watching now: http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt ALL LINKS: https://feedlink.io/jordanbpeterson - Sponsors - ExpressVPN: Get 3 Months FREE of ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/jordan Responsible Man: Be the man America needs you to be. Shop Responsible Man, and get an exclusive discount with code JORDAN at https://responsibleman.com/ Jeremy’s Razors: Get the Precision 5 from Jeremy's Razors at www.jeremysrazors.com - Links - For John Vervaeke: Awakening From the Meaning Crisis Series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ Vervaeke Foundation Website: https://vervaekefoundation.org/ John Vervaeke's Lectern (Walking the Philosophical Silk Road): https://youtu.be/Foz0VaTUuEw?si=odQyamOGhiOspuyk

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0:00.0

Hello everybody I have the privilege today to speak yet again to

0:20.4

to Professor John Verveke. He's a repeat guest on my show, maybe more than anyone else. That's possible.

0:28.8

John and I have been involved in a conversation now that spans more than a decade, we've been both working

0:36.1

assiduously in different ways on defining the meaning crisis and also exploring potential solutions to that crisis and

0:46.1

with some success I would say and one of the things that we do in today's

0:50.2

conversation is to to continue that dialogue and to delve more deeply

0:54.9

into what the meaning crisis signifies and also what it means say in John's terms

1:00.0

that there's a new advent of the sacred and what that means what the sacred means

1:05.9

what a new advent might look like what that means philosophically what it means

1:09.9

scientifically and theoretically for that matter.

1:13.2

We spend a fair bit of time as well discussing Peterson Academy.

1:17.8

John's one of the lecturers there.

1:19.1

He's done three courses for us, which have been very, the first one is released already, it's been very well received.

1:24.7

And along with Pajo and my work on the Peterson Academy, that's another place where this

1:31.9

meaning crisis, at least in in principle is in the process of being resolved and that

1:36.9

God only knows what that means but it seems to be a genuine phenomenon and so in phenomenon that means to shine forth, by the way,

1:45.5

and that does look genuine.

1:46.9

And so, well, John and I had the opportunity

1:49.4

to delve more deeply into all of those issues.

1:51.6

And that's great fun. That fun, that's an

1:54.9

enthusiastic fun, you know that's and when that makes itself manifest in a

1:59.4

conversation you see that in itself is something like the advent of the sacred because a

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