#479: Musical Not-obiography, Pt. 2 — Pavements

The Next Picture Show

Telegraph Road Productions

Tv & Film, Film Reviews, Film History

4.6 • 819 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Like I’M NOT THERE, Alex Ross Perry’s new docu-like feature PAVEMENTS takes a “print the legend” approach to its subject, blurring reality and fiction to convey the significance of defining ‘90s indie rock group Pavement from a few different semi-fabricated angles. Is that approach better suited to established fans, including our returning guest and longtime friend Noel Murray, than it is to newcomers less equipped to parse how the film skews the band’s history and creative output? Perhaps, and we get into that this week before placing PAVEMENTS’ slanted snapshot next to I’M NOT THERE’s fractured Bob Dylan portrait to see how each attempts to portray an artist’s essence, if not their biography, and explores how fame can turn a person into a persona. And in Your Next Picture Show we recommend another one of Perry’s experiments in using music-biopic conventions to tell a different kind of rock-n-roll story, 2018’s HER SMELL. Please share your thoughts about I’M NOT THERE, PAVEMENTS, or anything else in the world of film, by sending an email or voice memo to [email protected], or leaving a short voicemail at (773) 234-9730. Next Pairing: Celine Song’s MATERIALISTS and Joe Wright’s PRIDE & PREJUDICE Intro: 00:00:00-00:02:34 Friendship discussion: 00:02:34-00:31:28 Friendship/The Master Connections: 00:31:28-00:53:11 Your Next Picture Show: 00:53:11-00:57:40 Next episode preview and goodbyes: 00:57:40-end Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.5	It's very difficult to keep the line between the past and the present.
0:35.1	Do you believe that someone out of the past can enter and take possession of a living being?
0:41.9	We may be true with the past, but the past is not through with us.
0:49.6	Welcome back to the next picture show, a movie the week podcast devoted to a classic film
0:53.7	the way it shaped our thoughts on a recent release.
0:56.4	I'm Scott Tobias here again with Keith Phipps and Genevieve Koski.
1:00.5	Tasha remains out this week, but we've kept Noel handcuffed to the mic here at Next Picture Show Central,
1:06.1	where he's been subsisting on chocolate-covered pretzel Oreos and old drag city compilations.
1:11.8	Noel, hello. I was really excited to see, to see you praising the chocolate-covered pretzel
1:17.9	Oreos just because it brought me back to the Noel tries the new foods.
1:21.1	Noel tries the new foods. I still do, even though I'm not getting paid for it anymore. I still do.
1:25.3	You make that sacrifice. I do.
1:28.0	Yeah.
1:32.7	So in our last episode we discussed I'm Not There, Todd Haynes' impressionistic film about Bob Dylan featuring six characters who represent different phases of his career.
1:37.1	The new hybrid documentary Pavements by Alex Ross Perry attempts a similar conceptual feat to
1:43.2	explain pavement, a 90s indie rock band that
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