#478: Musical Not-obiography, Pt. 1 — I'm Not There

The Next Picture Show

Telegraph Road Productions

Tv & Film, Film Reviews, Film History

4.6 • 819 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Alex Ross Perry’s new hybrid documentary PAVEMENTS rejects convention in a way that’s both in keeping with the spirit of the ’90s indie-rock band at its center, and reminiscent of Todd Haynes’ deconstructed Bob Dylan biopic I’M NOT THERE. And while you arguably don’t need to be well-versed in either act to appreciate the films about them, it certainly doesn’t hurt, which is why we’ve brought in our old friend Noel Murray to help us parse two films that are more concerned with conveying an artist’s essence than their biography, beginning this week with I’M NOT THERE’s freewheelin’ approach to Bob Dylan. Then, in place of Feedback, our resident Dylan scholars provide several recommendations that offer some other, more straightforward angles from which to approach the man and his music. Please share your thoughts about I’M NOT THERE, PAVEMENTS, or anything else in the world of film, by sending an email or voice memo to [email protected], or leaving a short voicemail at (773) 234-9730. Intro: 00:00:00-00:04:09 I’m Not There Keynote: 00:04:09-0010:12 I’m Not There Discussion: 00:10:12-00:43:23 Feedback/outro: 00:43:23-end Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:00.4	Our regular co-host, Tasha Robinson, is blown in the wind, but we knocked on Heaven's Door and our good friend Noel Murray has answered.
1:07.6	That's just good writer there, folks.
1:10.5	Noel and I were in Athens, Georgia, during the
1:14.2	indie rock boom of the early 1990s. So he's the ideal guest for this week's films about pavement
1:20.2	and another slippery customer, Bob Dylan. What about the voice of the Getty Lee, Noel? How did
1:26.1	it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an
1:28.4	ordinary guy. I know him, and he does. You're my fact. Checking because. I will say, so I went
1:37.3	to Negro League's Museum in Kansas City last summer, which is a wonderful place and everyone should
1:41.3	go to it. It has a whole section from the collection of Getty Lee, who is a big baseball enthusiast,
1:48.6	and it is a collection of baseballs, to which I brought my wife over and said, Stevie, what about
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