475: [Formed.] Are You Suffering? Dr. Craig Keener on The Necessary Theology of Suffering, How to Develop a New Mindset About Affliction, Hurdling Unresolved Disappointment, Why God is Not in a Hurry to Mature Us, and the Pressure That Shapes Us
Win Today: Your Roadmap to Wholeness
Christopher Cook
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🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
Suffering exposes what we believe about God faster than success ever could. When affliction lingers, disappointment goes unresolved, and growth feels slower than we want, the question isn't whether God is present—it's whether our theology can carry the weight of real life. Too many believers inherit a framework that collapses under pressure, leaving them confused, bitter, or quietly disillusioned. This week on Win Today, Dr. Craig Keener joins me to rebuild a theology of suffering that can endure. We talk about why God is not in a hurry to mature us, how pressure actually forms spiritual resilience, and what it looks like to develop a mindset about affliction that produces endurance rather than erosion. This conversation doesn't minimize pain—it gives it meaning. If you're suffering, stalled, or carrying disappointment you haven't known how to name, this episode will help you reframe affliction as formation and discover the kind of maturity that only pressure can produce.
Guest Bio
Dr. Craig Keener is a leading New Testament scholar, historian, and theologian whose work has shaped global conversations on Scripture, the Holy Spirit, miracles, and suffering. He has authored dozens of academic and popular-level books and has taught and lectured internationally, bringing rigorous scholarship together with pastoral sensitivity and lived faith.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:03.0 | This week on Win Today. |
| 0:05.0 | If the Holy Spirit will withdraw from the church, |
| 0:07.0 | 98% or 95% of what's going on would keep on going. |
| 0:11.0 | Some parts of the world, they can't make it without God. |
| 0:15.0 | When somebody's going through suffering, |
| 0:17.0 | it's not a good time to give them platitudes, |
| 0:20.0 | like all things work together for good. |
| 0:22.1 | But it's good to know that in advance. Whatever our test, the call is to overcome. |
| 0:29.1 | Oh boy, whatever our test, you heard Dr. Keener, the call is to overcome. Welcome to the podcast, |
| 0:36.9 | you guys. I'm so glad you've joined me |
| 0:38.2 | again this week. We're going to continue formed. Today, we're tackling a difficult subject, |
| 0:42.8 | and that is suffering. You know, as well as I do, suffering has a way of exposing whether our |
| 0:48.1 | theology is inherited or forged. You know, when affliction and adversity linger and growth feels longer than we want, in my experience, |
| 0:59.3 | disappointment knocks at the door, it begins to ask questions, our answers, are built-in, |
| 1:05.7 | habituated answers, were never built to hold. |
| 1:09.6 | So as I said today, Dr. Craig Keener is back. He joins me to confront |
| 1:13.0 | the necessary theology of suffering to explain why the Lord is not in a hurry to mature us |
| 1:19.8 | and to show us how pressure becomes one of the primary tools the Lord uses to form |
| 1:25.6 | endurance and depth. |
| 1:28.1 | We're going to talk about developing a new mindset about adversity and affliction to begin with, |
| 1:34.2 | hurtling unresolved disappointment, which I think is one of the biggest Goliath's facing believers |
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