474. Why “Anti-Racism” is the Worst Form of Racism | Coleman Hughes

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🗓️ 22 August 2024

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author, podcaster, and opinion columnist Coleman Hughes. They discuss his latest book, “The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America,” why color blindness should be re-implemented as a cultural goal, the Marxist actors who have deliberately moved to repel it, the need for a meritocratic system, and instances when racial discrimination is appropriate. Coleman Hughes is an author, podcaster, and opinion columnist who specializes in issues related to race, public policy, and applied ethics. Coleman’s writing has been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, National Review, Quillette, City Journal, the Spectator, and the Washington Examiner. He appeared on Forbes 30 Under 30 list in 2021. In 2019, Hughes testified before the U.S. House Judiciary subcommittee at a hearing on reparations for slavery. In 2024, Hughes released his first book, “The End of Race Politics: Arguments for a Colorblind America.” He has appeared on prominent TV shows and podcasts including “The View,” “Real Time with Bill Maher,” “The Joe Rogan Experience,” and “Making Sense with Sam Harris.” Hughes is a columnist at the Free Press and a contributor at CNN. This episode was recorded on August 8th, 2024 - Links - Foundations of the West, out now on DailyWire+: https://bit.ly/3ABnIgR For Coleman Hughes: Buy tickets to see Coleman Hughes in conversation with Josh Szeps on August 25th in Sydney and August 28th in Melbourne. Sydney link: https://festivalofdangerousideas.com/program/a-colourblind-society-uncomfortable-conversations/#tickets Melbourne link: https://www.ticketmaster.com.au/uncomfortable-conversations-live-with-coleman-hughes-and-josh-szeps-melbourne-28-08-2024/event/130060E1D02C314C On X https://x.com/coldxman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor On youtube https://www.youtube.com/@ColemanHughesOfficial

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0:00.0	Hello everyone. Hello everybody I have the opportunity today to talk with Coleman Hughes.
0:19.0	Coleman has written a new book published in 2024 called The End of Race Politics,
0:26.1	Arguments for Color Blind America, in which he does exactly that.
0:30.5	To lay out his case for a return, I would say, to the classic civil rights attitude of the 1950s and early 1960s,
0:42.0	and that attitude was that
0:45.2	Individuals in society would be best served if we used standards of evaluation
0:50.9	other than intrinsic group-oriented characteristics to define, select, promote, and evaluate
0:59.8	one another.
1:01.0	And so what does that mean? Well, it definitely doesn't mean race, ethnicity, sex, gender, mostly because all of those attributes are actually irrelevant as the classic civil libertarians
1:15.6	presumed to complex job performance, to productivity, to contribution to society, and so they to it's a detriment to the people who are being selected by that means even if it's in the
1:36.1	service of some hypothetical reparation and certainly to society in that we should
1:41.5	always select the person who's best qualified for the position in question.
1:45.8	We should always select the person who can do the job in the most efficient and effective possible manner.
1:51.0	And that's not for them exactly, even though that's beneficial to them.
1:54.7	It's for everyone in our important positions. We want the best people. Why?
1:59.8	So that we can accrue the benefit of their ability.
2:04.0	It's, is it selfish?
2:05.8	Well, it isn't a sense because only in a sociological sense
2:10.2	is because society works best when it's able, when everyone is able to reap the benefits of the best in everyone.
2:18.0	And you don't define that racially. And if you start to do that, you actually interfere with the selection of excellence.
2:24.6	And so what did we talk about today?
2:26.8	We talked about that.
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