#473 — Money, Power, and Moral Failure
Making Sense with Sam Harris
Waking Up with Sam Harris
4.6 • 29.7K Ratings
🗓️ 29 April 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Sam Harris speaks with Lloyd Blankfein about finance, politics, and the state of American society. They discuss Blankfein's memoir, Goldman Sachs and its role as a market maker, the 2007-2008 financial crisis, the AI investment bubble, wealth inequality and the rise of trillionaires, the crisis of antisemitism on the left and right, Trump-era corruption and the post-truth political environment, the national debt, and other topics.
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| 0:25.1 | I'm here with Lloyd Blankfine. Lloyd, thanks for joining me on the podcast. |
| 0:28.3 | Oh, thanks for having me, Sam. |
| 0:29.5 | So you've written a memoir, Streetwise, which is incredibly fun to read and an education |
| 0:36.2 | for anyone who doesn't know much about finance. |
| 0:39.1 | And I'm just, I'm going to ask you some questions about it. |
| 0:42.7 | I mean, I'm especially I'm interested to understand the lessons we should have drawn from |
| 0:47.5 | the 2007, 2008 financial crisis, which you steered Goldman Sachs through, um, which was, uh, high stress and high stakes and, um, |
| 0:57.8 | an achievement for which you were both celebrated and vilified. So, I mean, you, you, you have a |
| 1:02.0 | very interesting story because you came up from, I mean, you're, you're a Jew living in the |
| 1:06.2 | projects. I mean, this is not a story that's often told about Jews these days, so you're coming from |
| 1:09.8 | basically nothing. |
| 1:10.8 | We forgot to socially mobilize. |
| 1:12.6 | Yeah, yeah. |
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