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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#470 — Democrats at a Crossroads

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Science, Society & Culture

4.629.7K Ratings

🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Sam Harris speaks with Rahm Emanuel about American politics, the state of the Democratic Party, and the 2028 presidential race. They discuss Emanuel's possible presidential run, identity politics and the left's cultural cul-de-sac, the Mississippi reading miracle, antisemitism on the left and right, the Gaza war, Netanyahu's failures, U.S. policy toward China, wealth inequality, and other topics.

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0:21.3

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0:24.2

I'm here with Rahm Emanuel.

0:26.1

Ron, thanks for coming back on the podcast.

0:27.7

Thanks for having me.

0:28.6

I didn't have to travel as far this time.

0:30.5

There's no jet lag, or maybe you've got some jet lag.

0:33.6

Just it.

0:34.9

Just kick me underneath if I start the dose.

0:37.1

Yeah, we were just talking off- mic about you wrapping up life in Japan.

0:41.2

And my expectation that things are going to get pretty interesting there from a foreign policy perspective pretty soon.

0:47.9

What's your sense?

0:48.3

We're going to jump into all of it, the war in Iran and everything else.

0:51.6

But what's your sense of that?

0:53.1

And about six weeks from now, the president's going to sit down with Xi, President, China.

0:59.0

The second is he's going to go in a weekend position, which is what everybody knows that

1:03.8

because of Iran and a series of things.

1:05.9

If you just take kind of a landscape, you've irritated a 30-year project for the United States,

1:12.4

which is bringing India closer to our bosom,

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