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467. Is the Future of Farming in the Ocean?

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🗓️ 24 June 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Bren Smith, who grew up fishing and fighting, is now part of a movement that seeks to feed the planet while putting less environmental stress on it. He makes his argument in a book called Eat Like a Fish; his secret ingredient: kelp. But don’t worry, you won’t have to eat it (not much, at least). An installment of The Freakonomics Radio Book Club.

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0:00.0

No one's came and asked this basic question, what's unique about the ocean as an agricultural

0:12.6

space?

0:13.7

What does it make sense to grow?

0:15.8

When you ask the ocean, but says something very simple at whispers in your ear, why don't

0:20.6

you grow things that don't swim that you don't have to feed?

0:24.2

That is Bren Smith.

0:25.8

He has had a fairly interesting life.

0:28.4

Here's a good quick summary of the early part from a book he wrote called Eat Like a Fish.

0:36.0

I dropped out of high school to fish and spent too many nights in jail.

0:39.7

My body is beat to hell.

0:41.2

I crawl out of bed like a lobster most mornings.

0:44.3

I've lost vision and half my right eye from a chemical splash in Alaska.

0:48.2

I'm an epileptic who can't swim and I'm allergic to shellfish.

0:53.0

Smith was a teenage misfit who dealt and used drugs and caused various other trouble.

0:58.6

More and probably he also went to law school.

1:02.0

These days he is an ocean farmer.

1:03.9

He has a 10 acre plot of water off the Thimble Islands of Connecticut in the Long Island

1:08.6

Sound.

1:09.6

He raises oysters, clams, mussels, and kelp that brown, slippery seaweed that looks like packing

1:16.2

tape.

1:17.3

If you were passing by his farm in your boat, you might not notice it.

1:22.2

You'd see these navigation boobies.

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