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460. The True Story of the Minimum-Wage Fight

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🗓️ 29 April 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Backers of a $15 federal wage say it’s a no-brainer if you want to fight poverty. Critics say it’s a blunt instrument that leads to job loss. Even the economists can’t agree! We talk to a bunch of them — and a U.S. Senator — to sort it out, and learn there’s a much bigger problem to worry about.

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0:00.0

In the US, the official poverty threshold is $26,500 in annual income for a family of four.

0:10.0

For a one person household, it's just under $13,000.

0:13.8

In 2019, the official poverty rate in the US was 10.5% down from 11.8% just a year earlier.

0:21.4

In fact, this was the fifth annual drop in a row, and the 2019 figure was the lowest

0:27.2

on record since 1959 when the poverty rate was first measured.

0:32.0

But once the 2020 numbers come in, those gains are due to be reversed.

0:36.8

A pandemic will do that.

0:39.4

A series of government interventions have blunted the hit for many people.

0:43.1

Still, it's estimated that some 8 million Americans have slipped below the poverty line

0:48.0

during the pandemic.

0:50.0

As you likely know, higher income workers were generally hit less hard by the pandemic,

0:55.1

as a lot of their jobs could be done remotely.

0:57.7

For lower income workers, there was a double whammy, more lost jobs, and a higher likelihood

1:04.2

of getting COVID-19.

1:06.2

So with this pandemic-induced poverty spike, and with Democrats now running the federal

1:12.8

government, there's been a surge of interest in one of the most popular policies to fight

1:17.8

poverty, a higher minimum wage.

1:22.3

Here in Congress, there is a big movement to raise the minimum wage, and it will pass

1:27.5

the House of Representatives, because that's a majority in body.

1:30.3

The question is, can it pass in the Senate?

1:33.5

That's Cory Booker.

1:35.0

I am one of the two senators from the state of New Jersey.

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