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The BEMA Podcast

460: Qohelet Hears Bad Words

The BEMA Podcast

BEMA Discipleship

Hermeneutics, Religion & Spirituality, Scripture, Jewish Context, Biblical, Judaism, Bible, Christianity

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Marty Solomon, Brent Billings, and Josh Bossé turn their ears to Qohelet and learn to avert disaster.

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0:00.0

This is the Baymont podcast with Marty Solomon. I'm his co-host, Brent Billings. Today, Josh Bosset turns our ears to co-hellet as we learn to avert disaster.

0:15.6

Coming from the last chapter, where we talked all about a good name and how to learn from those who came before

0:24.0

us and the legacies they left behind on what makes a meaningful life. We are now turning toward

0:29.0

the future and how to avert disaster from taking place. I noticed I kept me out of my favorite

0:35.1

chapter of Ecclesiastes and then had me come in for the chapter I probably feel the least of anything about. So this is good. I'm learning. Let's see if we can make you feel a little something here. We'll feel a little something here. We'll move the needle a little. Josh and I were sitting together planning this all out. And he's like, I think Marty would be good on chapter eight. So I don't know. He sees something in you, Marty, that I guess you don't see in yourself. Ah, I love it.

0:37.8

I love it. out and he's like, I think Marty would be good on it on chapter eight. So I don't know, he sees

0:54.3

something in you, Marty, that I guess you don't see in yourself. Ah, I love it. I love it. We'll find out.

1:00.8

Well, before we dive into the text, though, even though I'm loath to slow us down from diving into

1:05.5

the text, we have to always remember that this is a weird book. This is a book of philosophy, maybe mixed with a little prophetic chutzpah and some other things.

1:19.0

Let me see if I can remember. This is a book that's got a little bit of humanism. It's got a little bit of individualism, but not the kind of individualism or maybe even humanism

1:28.1

that we might think of or assume. It's coming from a different perspective, that Eastern way of

1:34.6

not individualistic as a consumer, not humanistic in a modern era sense, but more of a,

1:41.0

what is it that we and I specifically can do in relationship to God? Do I got that right?

1:47.2

Absolutely. And in fact, that theme specifically is going to play a huge part of this chapter,

1:52.9

that tension between individualism as in thinking about what happens to me based on how I live,

1:59.8

but also still having grown up in a communal context

2:03.1

where thinking about how something impacts the community is front of mind for Kohelet.

2:08.8

And the other thing as always is we need to remember that Kohelet is also talking about

2:13.3

what's happening under the sun.

2:15.0

Koholet is not letting herself, you know, appeal to, oh, you know,

2:18.4

we're God's partner, we have Torah, we have Sinai, like, nope, it's just looking at what's happening

2:23.3

under the sun, what can be seen. Universally true, not covenantally true, but universally true.

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