Marshall here, welcome back to the realignment.

Joining me on the show today is return guest. Professor Cal Newport,

Cal Newport is a professor of computer science

at Georgetown University, where he's also

a founding member of the Center for Digital Ethics.

He was actually in Austin this weekend, so I was super pumped to record in person with him about his new book

Slow productivity the lost art of accomplishment without burnout

The book is focused on cow's critique of so much of our working lives being

dedicated to pseudo-productivity. A problem is only increased with the

prevalence of digital tools and the post-pandemic work normal. What's great about Cal though is he is not

only talking about the self-help topics one could see in any airport book but it also has deeper

thoughts on everything from technology to the way we work that really fits into the themes of his writing in the New Yorker.

We also talk about the Creator Economy and his thoughts on the Apple Vision Pro and the future of spatial computing.

Hope you all enjoy this conversation and you could of course find a link to his

book in the realignment's show notes. A huge thank you to the Foundation

for American Innovation for supporting the work of this podcast.

Cal Newport, welcome back to the realignment.

Yes, in person for the first time, which I appreciate.

We had a very Zoom era post-pandemic 2021 recording,

so I'm excited to touch you this in person with you.

So here is what I want to do. Let's start with identifying the

enemy, the opposition, what a lot of folks are kind of be thinking about as like

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