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458. How to Manage Your Goal Hierarchy

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4.632K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In this special crossover episode, People I (Mostly) Admire host Steve Levitt admits to No Stupid Questions co-host Angela Duckworth that he knows almost nothing about psychology. But once Angela gives Steve a quick tutorial on “goal conflict,” he is suddenly a fan. They also talk parenting, self-esteem, and how easy it is to learn econometrics if you feel like it.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.

0:04.3

If there's one thing we've all learned from a year-long pandemic shutdown,

0:08.4

it's that no two people respond exactly the same way to a year-long pandemic shutdown.

0:14.0

Around here, we responded by starting some new podcasts.

0:19.0

You may already know this if you follow us closely.

0:21.6

The first show we called No Stupid Questions,

0:24.6

and it's kind of a free-canometer radio for psychology.

0:28.0

It is hosted by me and Angela Duckworth,

0:31.0

who teaches psychology at the University of Pennsylvania,

0:34.0

and she wrote the book, Grit, The Power of Passion and Perseverance.

0:38.0

Angela is brilliant and a force of nature.

0:41.0

I love the conversations we have on No Stupid Questions, like this one.

0:46.0

Stephen, I've been wondering about how different I am in different situations.

0:52.0

So I have a question for you. You ready for it?

0:54.0

Yes, I am.

0:55.0

So I wonder about myself, about how different I can act at home,

1:00.0

versus if I am with colleagues, how different I can think,

1:05.0

and even how different I feel.

1:07.0

It's as if there are multiple needs, multiple Angela's,

1:10.0

and I wondered whether you have multiple Stevens.

1:16.0

One of our other news shows is hosted by Steve Levit,

1:19.0

my Freakonomics friend and co-author who's an economist at the University of Chicago.

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