Hi, I'm Helen and I'm Sarah and you're listening to week three of the Squiggly Careers

Video Book Club. So this is the series that we are running in association with lit video

books in January where lit video books have given everybody who's part of the video book club

free access to their library of video books.

And we have selected four to focus on, four that we weren't necessarily that familiar with

beforehand that we have watched for everybody. And we've tried to take our insights and think

how they would apply to career development. But you can also watch it along too and get involved.

So this week, our focus is on burnout. That is the

video book that we have been watching. So today in this episode, Sarah and I are going to talk

about our takeouts from watching the video book and what we found interesting and useful.

And then tomorrow you're going to hear a conversation with Sarah and one of the authors of

burnout, Amelia Nogoski.

So it's worth saying with this video book that the focus isn't really burnout at work.

It's more the systemic causes of burnout.

And their focus is in particular on women,

why women might experience burnout. And so I think if you are sort of

curious to learn more about that, there's some really interesting research and they kind of go way,

way, way beyond work and into kind of lots of different areas of life. If you're sort of more

interested in burnout at work, I think you can watch the first

chapter and probably listen to our conversations and you'll probably get what you need to apply

to kind of your job and your kind of day-to-day work. So it is quite a different video book.

Well, there's some surprises along the way made Helena and I kind of, we were like, oh, okay,

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