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Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

452: Update: The Feeling Great App

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy

David Burns, MD

Clinical, Therapy, Anxiety, Psychotherapy, Depression, Health & Fitness, Cognitive, Mentalhealth, Mental Health, Behavior, Education, Self-improvement, Psychology, Relationships, Addiction, Happiness, Personalgrowth

4.4856 Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

What's the Latest on The Feeling Great App?

Featuring Jason Meno and Adam Holman 

Adam Holman and his loving cat! The featured photo is Jason Meno, also a cat lover!

Today we focus on a number of exciting updates in the Feeling Great app, and are delighted to be joined by our esteemed colleagues, Jason Meno and Adam Holman who have recently created and launched to new V2 version of the Feeling Great chatbot, which includes greatly increased horsepower, in terms of rapid and dramatic reductions in 7 negative feelings, including feelings of depression, anxiety, guilt / shame, inadequacy, loneliness, hopelessness / discouragement, and anger. The latest data indicates reductions of more than 60% in all of these feelings within the first 90 minutes of chatbot use in most new users, and more than 70% reductions in repeat uses in the same amount of time. This is absolutely phenomenal and far surpasses my expectations 50 years ago when I first imagined and visualized this app. In addition, the new version of the app also causes fairly dramatic increases in seven positive feelings at the same time--a highly desirable feature that was lacking in most previous versions of the app.

Jason and Adam also described a number of exciting, user-friendly features like two-way verbal communication with the app so you no longer have to type your dialogues (although you can if you prefer that mode.) Another new feature is long term memory, so the bot will remember you and be able to summarize your previous sessions, and more.

In addition, to illustrate exactly HOW the app works, we did a live demonstration with Jason, who has been struggling with several of his negative thoughts, like "This app might not reach the hundred of millions of people around the world who need it." His belief in this thought was 80%, and the thought triggered strong feelings of hopelessness, sadness, guilt, anxiety, frustration, anger, and inadequacy.  This is a valid concern since we must rapidly boost sales if we hope to break even and stay in business,

We tried a number of methods that weren't effective, following the app's philosophy of 'failing as fast as we can," including Positive Reframing and Paradoxical Magnification, that did not help at all. In fact, Positive Reframing simply triggered increased resistance. Then we tried a method that has been really helpful for Jason in the past, Externalization of Resistance, and he was able to successfully challenge all the really GOOD reasons to cling to his negative thoughts. At the end, his belief in the thought was reduced from 80% to 20%, which was satisfactory to Jason as he said that some worrying is realistic and keeps him on his toes continually adding amazing new features to the app.

If you've been struggling with low self-esteem or negative feelings or low self-esteem, you might want to check the latest version of the Feeling Great app. You can take a free ride and check it out. You've got absolutely nothing to lose but a couple hours of your time, and a life of greater joy and happiness to gain.

Rhonda, Jason, Adam, and I appreciate all of you, and thank you for joining us today!

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Feeling Good podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques

0:11.6

to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Borovsky, and joining me here in the

0:16.8

Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of

0:22.3

cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new team therapy. He's the author of Feeling

0:27.4

Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30

0:33.2

languages. His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery

0:39.3

possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an emeritus

0:45.2

adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine.

1:10.8

Hello, David. And welcome, everyone. This is the Feeling Good podcast, and we are at episode 452. And I am surrounded by handsome men, David Burns, Jason Meno, and Adam Holman.

1:11.6

Welcome.

1:18.1

David, will you explain to our listeners what we're going to be talking about today with Jason and Adam?

1:27.8

Yes, we're going to be giving everybody the latest scoop and poop on the app, the Feeling Great app.

1:34.6

And we'll have a touch a little base, a little bit of information on some of the basic science and the research we've been doing, but more important, the practical, awesome new

1:41.9

developments with the app that will be important and exciting to all of our listeners,

1:47.1

particularly anyone who would like to change the way you think and feel or feel and have a more

1:53.7

joyous and rewarding life and be able to bring about that change in as little as one day.

2:01.2

Oh, nice.

2:02.0

And then in our new version of it, you'll be able to bring that about in actually one second.

2:09.4

It's pretty incredible.

2:11.1

Wow.

2:11.5

And you can float and levitate and spin in the air at the same time.

2:17.6

Dang. I can't wait to hear about it.

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