A number of these programs prioritize training for underserved populations,

so low-income individuals, veterans, disabled workers, single parents, formerly incarcerated,

and help integrate those displaced workers into the clean energy industry.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building ProTog podcast, a regular discussion with building industry

professionals. This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by Keith Bowling, senior product manager for

NYSERDA. You can find the Fine Home Building Pro Talk podcast and the original Fine Homebuilding

Podcast at Fine Homebuilding.com slash podcast. You can leave feedback and ask questions there too.

Keith, thank you very much for being on the show. It's a pleasure to meet you.

Thanks for having me. Glad to be here.

So we've corresponded a number of times on the regular podcast. You've been very generous

with your thoughts and what you... It was illogical to talk to you about what you do for

NYSERDA. Can you please tell me first of all what NYSERDA is and what you do for them?

Yeah, sure. So, NYSERDA is the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority.

So we're technically a public benefit corporation. We offer objective information, analysis,

innovative programs, technical expertise, and funding to help New Yorkers increase

energy efficiency, save money, use renewable energy, and, of course, reduce our reliance on

fossil fuels.

So Nysirno, and I sort of operates in a number of spaces from large-scale renewables like

offshore wind, spaces like commercial and industrial, transportation, and, of course, residential.

So I'm a senior project manager on the residential team that focuses on upgrading one-to-four family homes,

so residential-scale buildings, if you will.

So we manage programs and pilots to upgrade the building shell

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