452: Jocelyn Kopac: 4 Crucial Steps To Becoming A Better Ally

Shameless Leadership

Sara Dean

Education, Management, How To, Business, Self-improvement

4.7 • 800 Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2020

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Jocelyn Kopac is a DEI educator, a speaker, a podcaster, and an entrepreneur. At age 7, Jocelyn Kopac started her first business. From then on she knew that running and growing businesses would be a huge part of her future. Her ingenuity and positive attitude represent true leadership, although she attributes a lot of her success to the power of abundance, paying it forward and a great cup of coffee. Those that have a chance to meet her, learn from her, and hear her story say she is nothing but real, unfettered advice and encouragement. A teacher at heart, Jocelyn loves helping businesses grow by facilitating the hard talks about diversity, equity, race, and inclusion. Her approach to diversity and inclusion work is one of love and education. We all have biases that we need to work on to be sure we are providing safe and productive anti-racist spaces. Jocelyn is here to educate and support you on this journey. Listen in to hear Jocelyn share: ● How she’s navigating being a DEI educator and living as a Black woman during this culturally revolution ● The definition and role of a DEI educator ● The important distinction between diversity and inclusion ● The important distinction between equality and equity ● 4 steps to becoming a better ally ● The definition of racism as it relates to your unchecked bias ● How white progressive women are doing harm while thinking they are being great allies ● How you can support BIPOC co workers and community members right now ● The danger in trying to race through a checklist of anti racism resources right now ● What the long term (necessarily uncomfortable) process of commitment, stamina, growth & change around anti racism work actually looks like ● The importance of acknowledging each person’s world perspective as individual and unique Links mentioned: ● Connect with Jocelyn, hire her to speak, join her mastermind: Stand In Your Bias ● Jocelyn’s glossary Thank you to our sponsor: Care.com: To save 30% off a Care.com Premium membership, visit Care.com/SHAMELESSMOM Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is the Shameless Mom Academy episode 452 with Jocelyn Copac.
0:05.5	Show notes for this episode, including any links mentioned in the episode, can be found by going to shamelessmom.com and clicking on episode 452.
0:18.2	Welcome to the Shameless Mom Academy. I'm your host, Sarah Dean. I'm here to give you and other
0:23.7	passionate, driven, unapologetic moms, tools, resources, and a little bit of humor to help you lead
0:29.9	more positive, powerful, and purposeful lives every damn day. One of the best things about the
0:35.3	Shameless Mom Academy is our community. So be sure to join us in our
0:38.5	free private Facebook group to connect with other shameless moms just like you. You can find us over
0:43.8	at shamelessom.com forward slash Facebook. All right. Let's dive into today's episode.
1:00.6	Jocelyn Copac is an educator, a speaker, a podcaster, and an entrepreneur, a serial entrepreneur, I should say.
1:06.1	At age seven, Jocelyn started her first business, and from there on, she was running and growing businesses that would be a huge part of her future. Her ingenuity and positive attitude
1:10.7	represent true leadership. Although she attributes a lot of her future. Her ingenuity and positive attitude represent true
1:11.9	leadership, although she attributes a lot of her success to the power of abundance, paying it forward,
1:16.8	and a great cup of coffee. Those who have the chance to work with her and learn from her and hear her
1:21.8	story say that she is nothing but real, offering unfettered advice and tons of encouragement.
1:28.6	A teacher at heart,
1:34.6	Jocelyn loves helping businesses grow and companies grow by facilitating hard talks about diversity, equity, race, and inclusion. Her approach to diversity and inclusion work is one of love
1:40.3	and education. We all have biases that we need to work on to be sure we're providing a safe
1:45.1	and productive anti-racist space and all the spaces that we occupy. So I want to let you know,
1:50.3	I listened to Jocelyn, speak to a group, an online group of moms a few weeks ago and just found
1:55.9	her to be really, really helpful. She answered a ton of questions that had been lingering in my mind
2:00.2	for a long time. And while she was in the middle of presenting, I got on her website and sent her a message and I said,
2:05.9	hey, will you come talk to my people? Can I hire you? So I was able to hire her to come over and talk to
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