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It's Topics, the podcast where two comedians discuss serious topics in a serious way.

Although, if something funny happens, that's okay, too.

I'm Michael Ian Black, joined, as always, by Michael Schoalter.

Hi, Michael.

Hi. We've got a terrific episode today, a very rich, very full episode that I can't wait to start unpacking.

Before we get to it, though, let me just quickly go over some of the rules of the road for

topics. Rule number one, of course, there are no rules. We have a, what is it called? A,

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