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🗓️ 16 May 2022
⏱️ 62 minutes
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There is an unstoppable flow of gain and loss within our lives.
Processing this flow helps us to develop equanimity. In this conversation, Pulitzer Prize-winner and New Yorker staff writer Kathryn Schulz discusses her new book Lost and Found: A Memoir, in which she explores experiencing both a huge loss anda huge gain, and how to live in a world where both happiness and pain commingle.
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0:00.0 | This is the 10% happier podcast. |
0:06.3 | I'm Dan Harris. |
0:08.0 | Again, I've always been really intrigued by the Buddhist notion of the eight worldly |
0:15.9 | wins. |
0:16.9 | They include praise and blame, success and failure, joy and sorrow and most relevant for this |
0:23.8 | conversation, gain and loss. |
0:26.9 | The idea is that if we learn to relate to these various two-sided coins as being like |
0:31.6 | the wind or part of nature, we can develop more equanimity vis-a-vis life's inevitable |
0:37.6 | ups and downs, vexations and vicissitudes, the full catastrophe. |
0:42.2 | Today, we're going to talk specifically about the unstoppable flow of gain and loss, the |
0:48.1 | upside and downside of impermanence and how to deal with this process more effectively. |
0:53.6 | My guest is not actually a Dharma teacher, but instead a Pulitzer Prize-winning writer |
0:58.3 | who I've actually been a fan of for a very long time. |
1:01.8 | She really is, in my opinion, one of the best writers drawing breath on the planet currently. |
1:07.8 | So it was very cool to meet her. |
1:09.4 | Catherine Schultz is a staff writer at the New Yorker who has a new book called Lost |
1:13.3 | and Found, a memoir, which is really about her processing a huge loss in her personal |
1:20.2 | life and then a huge gain. |
1:22.9 | And then also musing in a very compelling way about how to live in a world where this |
1:28.2 | happiness and pain inevitably commingle, in other words, how to live with contradiction. |
1:34.4 | In this conversation, we talk about how humans experience grief, a gift that you can give |
1:40.2 | to anybody who's grieving, why she loves the cliches that remind us to enjoy the moment |
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