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#447 – Cursor Team: Future of Programming with AI

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Lex Fridman

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science, Technology

4.7 β€’ 13K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 6 October 2024

⏱️ 158 minutes

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Summary

Aman Sanger, Arvid Lunnemark, Michael Truell, and Sualeh Asif are creators of Cursor, a popular code editor that specializes in AI-assisted programming.
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EPISODE LINKS:
Cursor Website: https://cursor.com
Cursor on X: https://x.com/cursor_ai
Anysphere Website: https://anysphere.inc/
Aman's X: https://x.com/amanrsanger
Aman's Website: https://amansanger.com/
Arvid's X: https://x.com/ArVID220u
Arvid's Website: https://arvid.xyz/
Michael's Website: https://mntruell.com/
Michael's LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3zIDkPN
Sualeh's X: https://x.com/sualehasif996
Sualeh's Website: https://sualehasif.me/

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OUTLINE:
(00:00) - Introduction
(09:25) - Code editor basics
(11:35) - GitHub Copilot
(18:53) - Cursor
(25:20) - Cursor Tab
(31:35) - Code diff
(39:46) - ML details
(45:20) - GPT vs Claude
(51:54) - Prompt engineering
(59:20) - AI agents
(1:13:18) - Running code in background
(1:17:57) - Debugging
(1:23:25) - Dangerous code
(1:34:35) - Branching file systems
(1:37:47) - Scaling challenges
(1:51:58) - Context
(1:57:05) - OpenAI o1
(2:08:27) - Synthetic data
(2:12:14) - RLHF vs RLAIF
(2:14:01) - Fields Medal for AI
(2:16:43) - Scaling laws
(2:25:32) - The future of programming

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0:00.0

The following is a conversation with the founding members of the cursor team, Michael Trull, Swaleasif, Arvid Loonmark, and Amman Sanger.

0:10.0

Curcer is a code editor based on V.S. Code that adds a lot of powerful features for AI assisted

0:16.9

coding. It has captivated the attention and excitement of the programming and AI communities. So I thought this is an excellent

0:26.0

opportunity to dive deep into the role of AI in programming. This is a super

0:31.5

technical conversation that is bigger than just about one code editor.

0:36.4

It's about the future of programming and in general the future of human AI collaboration

0:41.8

in designing and engineering, complicated and powerful systems.

0:48.0

And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor.

0:50.5

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0:52.0

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0:53.1

podcast. We got Encord for unifying your machine learning stack, Masterclass for

0:58.4

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1:05.8

Choose wisely, my friends.

1:07.7

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1:15.8

would be great. Go to Lex On to the full ad reads, I try to make them interesting, but if you skip them, please still check out our sponsors. I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too.

1:27.0

This episode is brought to you by Encore. A platform that provides data focused AI tooling for data annotation,

1:35.7

curation management, and for model evaluation.

1:39.4

One of the things I love about these guys is they have a great blog that describes cleanly.

1:45.0

I mean it's technical but it's not too technical but it's sufficiently technical

1:48.8

to where it's actually describing ideas and not BS.

1:52.2

Blog posts on on sort of the state of the art, like the

1:56.5

open AI-01 model that was just released. So sometimes they integrate it into

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