Hey everybody I've got a chance today to continue my ongoing conversation with Russell Brand.

I want to talk to him today about the collective unconscious and about what it is,

because I think we now understand what it is. I'm talking to him about sacrifice as the basis of community, about the distinction between

authority and power and Logos and power, about the danger of the use of power, about the necessity of the story, about how all that's

played out in his own life, about the proclivity of the modern self to identify itself with its whims and desires and passions

and the inevitability that that identification turns into something that closely approximates worship.

The idea that something should supplant,

has to supplant that for maturation to take place and for society itself to stabilize and remain productive and abundant.

We talk about the call to adventure

as a variant of the establishment of relationship with God.

We talk about the burden that Christ left on his followers in the aftermath of his death, all of that.

So if that's what, what would you say?

Wines your clock, well, this is the discussion for you.

So good to see you, Russell.

Thanks for agreeing to talk to me today.

It is a great joy to be in your company.

Thank you for having me.

So I want to run some ideas by... your company, thank you for having me.

So I want to run some ideas by you, and I want you to tell me how they echo for you personally and also philosophically. So I think I've figured out what the collective unconscious is.

If I want to run that by you.

Well, I've been thinking about these large language models a lot and about what they do,

because they can obviously mimic human thought

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