Hi, I'm Sarah and I'm Helen and this is the squiggly careers podcast. Every week we talk about a different topic to do with work and share some ideas and actions so that we can all navigate this squiggly career with that bit more confidence and control.

And before we get started on today's topic, which is all about how you can fit more play into your work,

we just want to let you know about an event that we have coming up that we'd love to see you at.

It is on the 2nd of December.

And instead of just doing Squiggly Careers Live, which is an event that we've done before and has been really well received,

we thought we would join up with some other podcasters

and we are creating a one-off special called the Career Collective.

Many names were floated.

Did you see how Bruce has, Bruce Daisley, who's one of our collective contributors,

have you seen how he's described it today?

What's he said today?

He said, apparently we are like the Avengers.

Well, do you know what? On that point,

I wanted to call us something like that and I wanted to market it and put capes on all of us.

I thought I could go on to like mid-journey or darling. I'm like a superhero for a day.

Right. I'm going to pick this back up. But I, this cynicism that I have faced in this collective of creating this event.

So I've gone with the career collective, which feels very formal instead of having more fun.

But it basically is several podcasters who are coming together for one night to discuss and debate what's next for work.

And we're going to take some topics, which I think we'll have some very fun, but potentially heated conversations about

our differences in opinions. I think it makes me, it actually makes me quite nervous because I just

think, you know, usually, I think we will still do this. Usually we do our end of year podcast

where just me and you chat about our years and I always really look forward to that podcast,

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